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Since: Apr 26, 2005 Posts: 143
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:10 am
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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:01:07 -0500, Daniel Mahoney
wrote:
>It seems that I've been asking for a lot of purrs lately. Sorry about
>that, but I need to ask again.
>
>My family doc referred me to an ortho surgeon for my knee injury. He
>believed that I had torn the meniscus cartilage in my knee, and the
>surgeon agrees. The surgeon wants me to go in for an MRI to see if there
>is any other damage.
>
>I am gainfully employed, in a decent job. I have medical insurance -
>medical insurance that is considered by many to be pretty good. But even
>with my insurance, the MRI and surgery will cost me over $1500. That is
>simply obscene.
>
>I can't afford this now. Nancy and I don't have that kind of cash on
>hand. We will have in a just a few months, so I'm going to wait til
>then. The purrs I am asking for are that I can avoid doing something
>dumb and injuring my knee any worse.
>
>Dan
Purrs are on the way.
You do realize that JUST an MRI runs from $1500 to $2000?
The knee surgery can cost anywhere from $15000 to $50000. Or more, if
there is rehab, etc.
I know it doesn't seem 'right', (and it isn't: health care in the USA
is by far the most obscenely expensive in the world) but you are better
off than a great many people.
My brother has no medical insurance at all, and needs knee surgery very
badly; for about 10 years now.
I have asthma. The three medications I need to control it cost over $500
per month. That's over $6000 per year.
Medical costs in the USA are one of my 'hot button' issues.
I hope that doesn't offend anyone.
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Since: Mar 18, 2006 Posts: 873
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:52 am
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Daniel Mahoney wrote:
> It seems that I've been asking for a lot of purrs lately. Sorry about
> that, but I need to ask again.
>
> My family doc referred me to an ortho surgeon for my knee injury. He
> believed that I had torn the meniscus cartilage in my knee, and the
> surgeon agrees. The surgeon wants me to go in for an MRI to see if
> there is any other damage.
>
> I am gainfully employed, in a decent job. I have medical insurance -
> medical insurance that is considered by many to be pretty good. But
> even with my insurance, the MRI and surgery will cost me over $1500.
> That is simply obscene.
>
> I can't afford this now. Nancy and I don't have that kind of cash on
> hand. We will have in a just a few months, so I'm going to wait til
> then. The purrs I am asking for are that I can avoid doing something
> dumb and injuring my knee any worse.
>
> Dan
Lots of purrs on the way. I think it's terrible that you have insurance and
still have to pay so much. :-(
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Since: Jun 03, 2007 Posts: 202
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:08 am
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On 27 Oct, 09:09, "jmcquown" wrote:
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> Dan, of course you have purrs coming. Medical costs are outrageous even if
> you have insurance! I don't even want to think about it. Just know purrs
> are on the way for the best possible outcome for your knee.
>
Adding my purrs- didn't realise that in the US even if you are insured
you have to find some of the cost and quite a large sum as well!
The NHS has its problems but Dave had to spend four and a half months
in hospital and a lot of his friends in the US are stunned that it
didn't bankrupt us
As for the knee, frozen sweetcorn is your friend. (I have a bad knee,
which was diagnosed back in 1985 by a physiotherapist as
chrondomalacia patellae i.e. worn cartilage and I spent many years
avoiding stress on the knee because she told me that if I didn't I
would need it replaced within a few years- I wasn't even 30 at the
time- I was VERY annoyed when I went to work for a knee surgeon who in
no uncertain terms told me that 1. It doesn't automatically lead to a
need for knee replacement and 2. Chrondomalacia patellae can't be
diagnosed without an arthroscopy so I may not have had it at all!)
Lesley
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Since: Jan 16, 2004 Posts: 1927
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:09 am
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Daniel Mahoney wrote:
> It seems that I've been asking for a lot of purrs lately. Sorry about
> that, but I need to ask again.
>
> I can't afford this now. Nancy and I don't have that kind of cash on
> hand. We will have in a just a few months, so I'm going to wait til
> then. The purrs I am asking for are that I can avoid doing something
> dumb and injuring my knee any worse.
>
> Dan
Dan, of course you have purrs coming. Medical costs are outrageous even if
you have insurance! I don't even want to think about it. Just know purrs
are on the way for the best possible outcome for your knee.
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Since: Mar 11, 2007 Posts: 375
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:01 pm
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"Lesley" wrote in message
> On 27 Oct, 09:09, "jmcquown" wrote:
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>>
>> Dan, of course you have purrs coming. Medical costs are outrageous even
>> if
>> you have insurance! I don't even want to think about it. Just know
>> purrs
>> are on the way for the best possible outcome for your knee.
>>
> Adding my purrs- didn't realise that in the US even if you are insured
> you have to find some of the cost and quite a large sum as well!
>
> The NHS has its problems but Dave had to spend four and a half months
> in hospital and a lot of his friends in the US are stunned that it
> didn't bankrupt us
>
> As for the knee, frozen sweetcorn is your friend. (I have a bad knee,
> which was diagnosed back in 1985 by a physiotherapist as
> chrondomalacia patellae i.e. worn cartilage and I spent many years
> avoiding stress on the knee because she told me that if I didn't I
> would need it replaced within a few years- I wasn't even 30 at the
> time- I was VERY annoyed when I went to work for a knee surgeon who in
> no uncertain terms told me that 1. It doesn't automatically lead to a
> need for knee replacement and 2. Chrondomalacia patellae can't be
> diagnosed without an arthroscopy so I may not have had it at all!)
>
> Lesley
There are as many different health insurance plans in the US as you can
imagine. Primarily there are various things they don't cover and various
amounts and percentages you have to pay yourself. It keeps their expense
and your cost down. And it cuts down on unnecessary procedures.
I have very good coverage. Usually only have to pay $3 to $9 a month for
any prescriptions I don't get free from the military. How much did the
coverage cost? Twenty years of Charlie's life.
But tomorrow it seems I may be out of luck. I need to get nine skin tags
removed from my inner thighs. But usually skin tag removal is just a
cosmetic thing. So the insurance has decided in their infinite and
erroneous wisdom that all skin tag removal is a cosmetic thing so they won't
pay for it. I dread finding out what this is going to cost me.
Here is where it gets weird and unfathomable. If my insurance covered it,
they would pay about $300 for the procedure, regardless of what the doctor
charges and I wouldn't have to pay anything. But since they don't, I have
to pay whatever the doctor charges. Probably closer to $800.
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Since: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 57
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:07 pm
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"Daniel Mahoney" wrote
> The purrs I am asking for are that I can avoid doing something
> dumb and injuring my knee any worse.
Anti-Klutz Purrs en route
Gordon & the FF (Profoundly grateful to live in a country which,
despite many shortcomings, has free medical care).
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Since: Oct 31, 2005 Posts: 219
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:31 pm
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There are more than enough purrs for any one who needs them.
Purrs on the way tht every thing works out with you knee.
Ann
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"Daniel Mahoney" wrote in message
> It seems that I've been asking for a lot of purrs lately. Sorry about
> that, but I need to ask again.
>
> My family doc referred me to an ortho surgeon for my knee injury. He
> believed that I had torn the meniscus cartilage in my knee, and the
> surgeon agrees. The surgeon wants me to go in for an MRI to see if there
> is any other damage.
>
> I am gainfully employed, in a decent job. I have medical insurance -
> medical insurance that is considered by many to be pretty good. But even
> with my insurance, the MRI and surgery will cost me over $1500. That is
> simply obscene.
>
> I can't afford this now. Nancy and I don't have that kind of cash on
> hand. We will have in a just a few months, so I'm going to wait til
> then. The purrs I am asking for are that I can avoid doing something
> dumb and injuring my knee any worse.
>
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Since: Dec 01, 2006 Posts: 223
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:43 pm
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Daniel Mahoney wrote:
> It seems that I've been asking for a lot of purrs lately. Sorry about
> that, but I need to ask again.
>
> My family doc referred me to an ortho surgeon for my knee injury. He
> believed that I had torn the meniscus cartilage in my knee, and the
> surgeon agrees. The surgeon wants me to go in for an MRI to see if there
> is any other damage.
>
> I am gainfully employed, in a decent job. I have medical insurance -
> medical insurance that is considered by many to be pretty good. But even
> with my insurance, the MRI and surgery will cost me over $1500. That is
> simply obscene.
>
> I can't afford this now. Nancy and I don't have that kind of cash on
> hand. We will have in a just a few months, so I'm going to wait til
> then. The purrs I am asking for are that I can avoid doing something
> dumb and injuring my knee any worse.
>
> Dan
You got it, Dan. Purrs that your knee says injury-free.
Ginger-lyn
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Since: Jun 06, 2007 Posts: 175
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:00 pm
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On Oct 26, 9:01 pm, Daniel Mahoney wrote:
> It seems that I've been asking for a lot of purrs lately. Sorry about
> that, but I need to ask again.
>
> My family doc referred me to an ortho surgeon for my knee injury. He
> believed that I had torn the meniscus cartilage in my knee, and the
> surgeon agrees. The surgeon wants me to go in for an MRI to see if there
> is any other damage.
>
> I am gainfully employed, in a decent job. I have medical insurance -
> medical insurance that is considered by many to be pretty good. But even
> with my insurance, the MRI and surgery will cost me over $1500. That is
> simply obscene.
>
> I can't afford this now. Nancy and I don't have that kind of cash on
> hand. We will have in a just a few months, so I'm going to wait til
> then. The purrs I am asking for are that I can avoid doing something
> dumb and injuring my knee any worse.
>
> Dan
Purrs and gentle headbutts on the way that you are able to control the
pain and avoid doing anything that will cause you to further injure
your knee until you are ready to have the surgery. Keep an eye out
for kitties who love to rub ankles, especially near stairways.
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Since: Jun 06, 2007 Posts: 175
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:07 pm
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On Oct 27, 3:15 am, g.gand....RemoveThis@lycos.com (Gandalf) wrote:
> Purrs are on the way.
>
> You do realize that JUST an MRI runs from $1500 to $2000?
>
> The knee surgery can cost anywhere from $15000 to $50000. Or more, if
> there is rehab, etc.
>
> I know it doesn't seem 'right', (and it isn't: health care in the USA
> is by far the most obscenely expensive in the world) but you are better
> off than a great many people.
>
> My brother has no medical insurance at all, and needs knee surgery very
> badly; for about 10 years now.
>
> I have asthma. The three medications I need to control it cost over $500
> per month. That's over $6000 per year.
>
> Medical costs in the USA are one of my 'hot button' issues.
>
> I hope that doesn't offend anyone.
Gandalf,
I buy Sam's Flovent from a on-line Canadian pharmacy, Four Corners
Pharmacy. I don't have to have a prescription, although I do have one
from his vet. The cost is $78/canister. If I buy it from a US
pharmacy the cost is $150/canister and we use 1 canister/month. I'm
not sure it is legal to order drugs from Canada for human consumption
but I've never had to prove that I'm buying it for my cat and the
Flovent I get is the exact same Flovent sold here in the pharmacy for
humans.
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Since: Oct 08, 2005 Posts: 776
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:42 pm
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Daniel Mahoney wrote:
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> I can't afford this now. Nancy and I don't have that kind of cash on
> hand. We will have in a just a few months, so I'm going to wait til
> then. The purrs I am asking for are that I can avoid doing something
> dumb and injuring my knee any worse.
I was diagnosed with a "torn miniscus" nearly thirty years
ago. The orthopaedist I saw told me the surgery was not
compulsory - it depended upon how much trouble it gave me.
(What he actually said was "Recovery would take time and
extensive physical therapy - if you were younger I would
recommend the surgery without question, if you were older
I'd suggest it might cause more distress than it
alleviated, but at your age it's pretty much up to you, and
how much it restricts your activity.")
My chiropractor (who was the one who sent me to an
orthopaedic surgeon) gave me a sort of minimal knee-brace
called a "cho-pat", which helped to keep the kneecap in
place without unduly restricting movement. For a couple of
years, the discomfort came and went, but it gradually got
better. When I mentioned this to my doctor, he told me that
cartilage - including the miniscus - heals slowly, but if
the tear is not too bad, it can heal itself. (Which is
apparently what happened - once in a great while the knee
gives me a few twinges and I use the cho-pat for a few days,
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Since: Oct 27, 2007 Posts: 129
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:53 pm
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> As for the knee, frozen sweetcorn is your friend.
Rubbish.
Frozen peas RULE!!!
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:03 pm
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Daniel Mahoney wrote:
> It seems that I've been asking for a lot of purrs lately. Sorry about
> that, but I need to ask again.
>
> My family doc referred me to an ortho surgeon for my knee injury. He
> believed that I had torn the meniscus cartilage in my knee, and the
> surgeon agrees. The surgeon wants me to go in for an MRI to see if there
> is any other damage.
>
> I am gainfully employed, in a decent job. I have medical insurance -
> medical insurance that is considered by many to be pretty good. But even
> with my insurance, the MRI and surgery will cost me over $1500. That is
> simply obscene.
>
> I can't afford this now. Nancy and I don't have that kind of cash on
> hand. We will have in a just a few months, so I'm going to wait til
> then. The purrs I am asking for are that I can avoid doing something
> dumb and injuring my knee any worse.
>
> Dan
Well, I tried to reply to this, but I don't see that I did, and my
computer went wonky (yet again!) about that same time, so . . .
Purrs coming your way for a trauma-free knee.
Ginger-lyn
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:02 am
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On 27 Oct, 12:53, Jack Campin - bogus address
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> > As for the knee, frozen sweetcorn is your friend.
>
> Rubbish.
>
> Frozen peas RULE!!!
>
I findf it easier to mould a bag of sweetcorn than a bag of peas
possibly because sweetcorn is a little smaller but I wouldn't say no
to frozen peas either
Lesley
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:46 am
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